Narrated by the Author Renee Conoulty

Renee Conoulty is an Australian Air Force wife and mother of two. She writes stories of dance, romance, and military life. She also narrated her own audio book, then wrote a book about it!

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Sarah Williams:                  Welcome to Write with Love. I’m your host, Sarah Williams, bestselling author, speaker and creative entrepreneur. Each week, I chat to passionate and inspiring authors about their journey in creative writing. Some are traditionally published. Some do it themselves. Everyone’s journey is different, and everyone has something interesting to say. We all love love, and love what we do.

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Sarah Williams:                  G’day. I’m Sarah Williams, romance author and independent publisher at Serenade Publishing. Today, I’m chatting to Renee Conoulty. Thanks for joining me, Renee.

Renee Conoulty:              Hi. Thanks for having me.

Sarah Williams:                  No worries. Can you tell us about yourself and your journey to publication?

Renee Conoulty:              Okay. I never had a plan for publication. I never had a plan to write. It’s something that kind of snuck up on me by surprise. It probably started … I’ve always been an avid reader. So I’ve always loved reading. Big bookworm, and then when my hubby joined the military and we posted up to Darwin, I was looking for something to do because I was at home. I could only pick up a bit of part time work. Had the kids at home. I was like, “Well, I like reading. I’d love to join a book club.” But I found it really hard to actually get out of the house and go to a book club.

Renee Conoulty:              So I got online. I discovered this place called Goodreads and got lost in the abyss of Goodreads. I found a great group of people there to join and started reading almost competitively. I got up to about 275 books a year which is kind of a lot, but I saw myself as a reader, not a writer. I’d never been just into writing. I just didn’t think I could. I felt like writing corny poetry and dumb things that rhyme just to amuse myself, but a novel just was way too daunting. And all these books that I was reading were written by these authors that are these God-like creatures that sit over here and have creativity and can write. I’m not like that.

Renee Conoulty:              So after doing that for a little while, I started up a book review blog. Honestly, it was so I could get on to NetGalley and request free books.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              That’s why it started, which was great for me, and it was great for meeting authors. After I’d requested a few books and actually connected online with a few authors, and I discovered that authors are people. They’re like normal people like me. So that sort of made me think twice about things. Then I had a few people say, “Oh, you should write a book,” and encouraged me. Because writing this blog, I’d been writing silly little stories about things and writing book reviews. I had probably three different people say, “Oh, you should write a book.” I’m like, “I can’t write a book. What would I write a book about?”

Renee Conoulty:              The one thing that actually started me up and decided, “Okay, I will start writing a book.” Natasha Lester, who I think you had on the blog a couple weeks ago, a little while ago. She’s got a fantastic website, and one of the articles she’d written that I happen to read that week, was saying that you don’t need to know everything to write a book. You don’t have to have the whole story worked out. All you need to start writing a book is some time and one idea.

Renee Conoulty:              I read that, and the next week my husband was going away for a month for training with the military. So I was like, “Well, I’ve got all my evenings free now for a month, and I kind of do have an idea.” Because when we found out we were moving to Darwin, I started looking ’round for books that were contemporary novels set in Darwin just to get a bit of a feel for what Darwin’s like, and I couldn’t find any. When I found out hubby was going to join the military, I’ve been looking around for contemporary stories about Australian military life. I couldn’t find any of those either. I found lots of historical stuff and World War II stories, but there was nothing about contemporary, everyday life in the military now.

Renee Conoulty:              You can Google military romance or military stories. You get all the [inaudible 00:04:15] heroes and the Navy Seals in the USA, but you really don’t get a lot that’s set in Australia. And also, I took up swing dancing back in 2000 in Melbourne where I actually met my husband at a swing dancing class on the Gold Coast. So that’s been another passion of mine, and I’m always on the look out for books that have got any glimpse of swing dancing in it. And they’re pretty few and far between as well.

Renee Conoulty:              So I figured, “Well, actually I’ve got three ideas, not one idea. I want to read a book with swing dancing.” Excuse me. “I want to read a book with Australian military life, and I want to read a book about Darwin.” So I thought, “Well, maybe I can write that book.” So I thought, okay. And I sort of thought about it for a week or so, and then one of the friends who’d been encouraging me to write, she said, “I’m signing up for NaNo WriMo next month for the camp NaNo. So you don’t have to do 50,000 words. You can set your own limit. Do you wanna join me? Do you wanna join my cabin I have in the camp NaNo?” I’m like, “Okay. Well I kind of have an idea, and I was thinking about doing it.”

Renee Conoulty:              So that was that little push off the edge, and that July, 2015 it would have been, I got 20,000 words out in a month. And I’d never written more than 500 words before. So I kind of surprised myself. I gave myself the reward of buying ‘How to Write a Blockbuster’ by Fiona McIntosh.

Sarah Williams:                  McIntosh.

Renee Conoulty:              As my reward for getting through NaNo. I thought, “Okay. If I’m serious to actually write 20,000 words, I better figure out what on Earth this thing is that I’m doing.” So then from there on I started absorbing writing craft books and joining online groups and getting to know all the authors and just trying to figure out what this whole writing things is.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              I went back in … As I was figuring out what was going on, I found that a large chunk of my story was backstory that didn’t need to be there, but I needed to write it to figure out who my character was.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              So I ended up popping and pasting that out into another document, and I ended up flushing that out into a short story so I could get to know my character. And that’s actually come out since then as a prequel to the novel, but I did, I finished my novel. It took me a while. The first 20,000 was good, and from there on, it kind of slowed down. As the [inaudible 00:06:27] husband comes back from his course and life continues on. And you have ups and downs, but I kept writing.

Renee Conoulty:              It probably took about a year. All that to get that first novel, the first draft down and start playing around with it to get to the point where I could show my mom. She said, “Oh, that’s great.” She goes, “But, you know, that woman, she’s been pregnant for about 10 months now, and the book just ended. You might need to have a baby somewhere along the line.” So one of the characters, one of the side characters, she forgot to have her baby. So there was a little bit of work to get the story all back in together and make it work.

Renee Conoulty:              I did actually take that to my first … I joined RWA, and I went to the conference in 2016. I did pitch that novel to two different publishers, and they both said, “Yes, send it through.” And then I got home from conference and realized, that was in August, I realized we’re posting out of Darwin. We’re leaving Darwin in November this year. If I send these books through to those publishers, I’m not even gonna hear back about it before November this year. And my novel was set in Darwin. It was set around the swing dancing community in Darwin, who, they’re real. They’re real people. The people in the book are not real people, but the setting is all real.

Renee Conoulty:              I had this … I know what I really wanted out of my book was to have a book launch party with my friends in Darwin. I went, “Okay, well, I could send it to the big publishers, and there’s a chance I could get a publishing deal.” But what was more important to me at the moment, was not to have a big publishing deal. I wanted my book to share with my friends before I had to leave. I went, “Okay. What are my options?” I could self-publish, but I don’t even know where to start with that.

Renee Conoulty:              Then I had that friend who, a year before had been saying you should write a book, had also been talking over that last year about, she wanted to start her own publishing company. So I messaged her and said, “So where are you at with this publishing company? Do you think you could start it now, and publish my book before I leave Darwin?” And she’s like, “Okay.”

Renee Conoulty:              So we both worked together and got Kindred Ink Press started. I’m like poking her along. Can you do it now instead of next year when you’re planning to? So yeah, that got started a little bit sooner. So it’s taking her a little bit to catch up, and now she’s got a whole lot of books coming out in the next year or so with other authors. She’s got open submissions at the moment for some short story novellas and things for box sets coming up.

Sarah Williams:                  Oh good.

Renee Conoulty:              So there’s lots of things going on there, but I’m like, “I was the first one.” It was great. We really got in together and worked hard and got this book out. I had my book launch party with paperbacks in hand the week before we left Darwin.

Sarah Williams:                  Awe. [crosstalk 00:09:23]

Renee Conoulty:              And I was like, “Yay.” So yeah, if you hunt through my Facebook author page, there’s a video from the book launch party if you go through all the videos. So you can have a look at us all sweating out [crosstalk 00:09:37] at the back of the little dress shop which is a shop that was featured in the book at one point. It was just nice to have it all tie together and have that party there.

Sarah Williams:                  So what was that book called, if anyone’s interested?

Renee Conoulty:              That’s called, ‘Don’t Mean a Thing’.

Sarah Williams:                  ‘Don’t Mean a Thing’. Okay.

Renee Conoulty:              I prepared earlier.

Sarah Williams:                  I got a copy.

Renee Conoulty:              The swing dancing couple on the front. So this is book one in a series. I’m actually planning to do a series of military, Darwin, swing dancing books. So that has … The main character is a girl called Macy, and she’s a woman who’s in the Air Force. So the next book I’m working on has got a woman who’s in the Navy, and then I’ve got a third book planned with a woman in the Army.

Sarah Williams:                  Awesome.

Renee Conoulty:              Because all three forces are up in Darwin. So I’m tying them and linking them with side characters and settings and that sort of thing, but I’ve got a different couple as the feature for each book. So I mentioned before I had the prequel story about Macy, about the main character as to how she got to where she was. So that’s come out in a duet, like a pair of short stories called, ‘Gotta Be This or That’. So it’s technically a prequel. It’s set before the novel, but you could read them in any order because I wrote them around that way.

Renee Conoulty:              So it’s got that story. It’s got another short story in there around the swing dancing. A little romance around the swing dancing community.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. Oh, brilliant. So these, are you calling them romance or more women’s fiction?

Renee Conoulty:              I’m calling them chick lit, except nobody likes to call anything chick lit these days. So I tend to go romantic comedy, or I’ll say, I don’t … I tend to go to romantic comedy a bit more. The prequel is probably more women’s fiction because it’s not a romance, but I tend to sort of delve in to all the women’s fiction, chick lit, romantic comedy, contemporary romance.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. All bases covered.

Renee Conoulty:              Mix them all together. Little bits of each. Depends on the story. I’ve got a short story as well that’s more contemporary romance, romantic comedy that I wrote for, it was the Little Gems last year, I think.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah, with RWA.

Renee Conoulty:              Yeah, with RWA. So it was the onix theme.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              I wrote that one, and it came like 17th. And it was only the top 14 that got in the collection. So I’m like, within a week with getting my result of saying I’m not in the collection, I went, “Well, I want to publish this now before anybody forgets who Pokemon Go is,” because it had a Pokemon Go theme. And by then, it was like, it’s not cool anymore. So it’s like, I need to get this out now.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              So I decided at that point, okay. I’m just gonna self-publish it. So I jumped in the deep and learned how to self-publish within a week. And put this little one up, so it’s up as a freebie everywhere. So it’s wide, and it’s free.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              3,000 words, little bit of fun.

Sarah Williams:                  That’s, Pokemon Go. I remember those days.

Renee Conoulty:              Yeah, it’s a romance. It’s still contemporary romance. It’s not like, Pokemon falling in love. It’s people, but [crosstalk 00:12:39] You know how you used to walk around with … catching, flicking the thing and all that stuff. It was big when I started writing it, but within six months, it’s just not cool anymore. I’m like, “Oh well.” It’ll be free. Nobody will want to buy something that’s that far out of date now. So it’s up for free.

Sarah Williams:                  That’s funny.

Renee Conoulty:              But yeah, that’s out there. But then, it was fun though. I enjoyed the self-publishing. So I like having a bit of both. I’ve got some books with Kindred Ink Press that I don’t have to … They do all the updating and uploading and the editing and the covers and all that sort of stuff, but then I had a little play with something of my own. I’ve put another couple books out since then. Just short collections or shorter books. So there’s … the short story’s called, ‘Catching Onix’. If you can find that one.

Renee Conoulty:              Then I’ve got a collection of flash fiction called, ‘Wife, Mother, Woman’. That one’s self-published as well.

Sarah Williams:                  Excellent.

Renee Conoulty:              That’s wide, and both of those two are on audio. I decided I wanted an audiobook.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah, so tell us about this. You audio narrated it yourself.

Renee Conoulty:              Yeah, I did because I thought okay, I can get onto … I heard all about ACX, the Audiobook Creation Exchange run by Audible. So I got on there and had a look and thought, “Oh, this is great. You can do a royalty share,” which means you don’t have to pay upfront. So I can get someone to narrate my book, and then we can split the royalties later. It’s only a short one, so they might give me a go. Then I got into the fine print. It’s like, you live in Australia, you can’t play with us. And I went, “Oh. Okay.”

Renee Conoulty:              I don’t have a big budget to do this with so I thought I’ll have a look around. There wasn’t really much that was easy to access from Australia. And then I heard about Findaway Voices coming. So I looked into them. Joined through Draft2Digital. They’re associated with them. So if you go through Draft2Digital into Findaway Voices they waive the setup fee for your book. Otherwise, there’s a $50 fee. So I thought, I’ll look into that, and then I looked into the rates for an audiobook through them. It’s like, well the story’s only 3,000 words. It’s not very long. So it wouldn’t be too expensive. So I thought I might have a look at doing that, and then I just started looking around at narrating audio books and how does it all work. Then I went, well for the price of a microphone, I could narrate that myself, or I could pay someone else to narrate it.

Renee Conoulty:              Then, ’cause I like doing everything myself, my first … ‘Catching Onix’, I edited it. I designed my own cover. I’ve done everything. So I thought, “Maybe I’ll have a go at narrating it myself.” So that’s what spun around in my head for a month or so. Then when my laptop died, I went down to JB Hi-Fi to buy a new laptop, and I came out with a new laptop and a microphone. I accidentally bought a microphone. I better do it then. So yeah, it was fun. It was fun. It was a bit of a learning experience, but that’s what it’s all about. Everything in this business is a learning experience. You gotta get in and have a go.

Sarah Williams:                  It is. It is. So which ones did you narrate?

Renee Conoulty:              So I’ve narrated ‘Catching Onix’. I’ve narrated ‘Wife, Mother, Woman’. After doing that, I had a lot of people say, “How did you do that?” So I sat down to write a blog post about how I narrated those books, and my 500 word blog post turned into about 10,000 words. So I called it a book, and I published that as well. So that’s called ‘Narrated By The Author’. So I figured I better narrate that one as well. So I’ve got that one out there too. So I’ve got three audio books that I’ve self narrated. So there’s two that are fiction, and then one’s about how to do it.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. Well that’s exciting.

Renee Conoulty:              Have a go yourself. You can get a decent microphone for around the $100 mark. I think I paid about $150 for mine. And then you can use free software and free things to edit it. Free things to record it. If you go through Findaway Voices, you can upload it all for free.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. Right. So you used Findaway to-

Renee Conoulty:              Yeah, I used Findaway. So you can actually bring your own files to Findaway as well.

Sarah Williams:                  Oh, brilliant.

Renee Conoulty:              But you don’t have to use their narrators. So I did that [inaudible 00:17:06] I’m heading out to Kobo soon. They’ve just joined up with Kobo. So Kobo’s got new audio. So I’m refreshing my Kobo to see if my book’s there yet. But it is on Google. It’s on iTunes. They’re on Audible. Amazon, and a whole bunch of other places that I don’t really know about. But every now and then some weird thing turns up on the royalties data, and I’m like, “Oh, where’s that?” So lots of library based subscription things or pay per use library stuff like OverDrive. Yeah, there’s a whole lot of them.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. That’s really cool. So any of those Australian authors who are like-

Renee Conoulty:              You can do it.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. But agree to listen to your book first.

Renee Conoulty:              Yeah.

Sarah Williams:                  Make sure you do that.

Renee Conoulty:              I started with short stories because I thought, if I just try out to get an idea of how it all works with a short book. If I jump in to try and do a novel, am I … publisher’s got the audio rights for my novel, so I can’t really do that at the moment, anyway. Just to keep in mind down the track, it’s like I’ll have a go. There’ll be other things that I write. Anything else I self-publish, I might have a go at.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. It’s good to get on the audio at the moment. It’s huge overseas. It’s definitely on its way. I am always listening to at least one audiobook which, for me, I usually listen to audio which is out of my usual writing genre. So I write rural romance, and so I’m generally listening to Natasha Lester or Fiona McIntosh, something like that. Actually at the moment, I’m addicted to the romance package on Audible.

Renee Conoulty:              Oh yeah.

Sarah Williams:                  So I’m listening to a lot of Bella Andre and Lauren Blakely, which is great.

Renee Conoulty:              I love Audible. I’ve got my earphones or headphones, something plugged in. It’s either podcast or audiobooks. I feel like I’m always plugged in. I’ve gotta remind myself to unplug occasionally, and actually let my brain do imagination stuff. Otherwise, I’ve got nothing to write because I’m so plugged in all the time.

Sarah Williams:                  I was listening to Lauren Blakely, ‘The Knockout Plan’, I think it was called. It’s very hot, but I was listening to that with my earbuds in. And I’m chopping up fruit and fiji’s for my kids school lunches. They’re doing their homework. I’m like, “I’m busy. I’m busy.” It was very funny. At least they couldn’t hear it.

Sarah Williams:                  So you were talking to me before about doing an eCourse for this. Tell me how that came up.

Renee Conoulty:              So with ‘Narrated By The Author’ I put out the eBook edition. I did a paperback edition. I decided to do the audio edition. So I decided well, I might as well put an online course together as well. So I used the text from the eBook and the audio files from the audio to do that section of the course, and then I’ve also recorded video with screen capture and demonstrations on how I’ve done things. A little tour through my studio which was my walk-through wardrobe. I decided not to do this podcast today in the wardrobe. It might have better sound, but you don’t really wanna see all my clothes hanging up behind my head. But if you do wanna see that, go check out the online course ’cause there’s a couple of bits in there in the wardrobe. The rest is out here with the bookshelf.

Renee Conoulty:              So it walks you through. A little bit more hand holding. A little bit more, this is exactly how I did it. Here’s some screen capture. Here’s a bit more information. There’s exercises and little activities to do all the way through as well to practice all the things you’ve just learnt. A little quiz in the middle somewhere. So there’s just that little bit more if you find you want more than just reading an eBook.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. That’s awesome. So yeah. eCourse is getting really popular right now. I’m definitely thinking about it as well. So yeah, that’s brilliant. RWA, Romance Writers of Australia, I think 2016 you said was your first. That was my first as well. So we were newbies together. So have you … Is that the first year that you had joined that? Or were you a member before that?

Renee Conoulty:              No, I just joined up in the January so I could go to conference.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              I had thought, I wanna join that year. I wanna do this. It sounds great. I had lots of friends say, “Oh, you should go.”

Sarah Williams:                  Excellent.

Renee Conoulty:              Go to conference. Come to conference. So I went 2016. I went 2017, and it was fabulous. It was really good. It’s great to catch up with people that I see online all the time, and I don’t get to see them in person. Especially when I was in Darwin because there’s no romance writers in Darwin. There’s one girl who I made friends with who started doing romance. She’s just started publishing things, but that was it. It was very literary upbeat. You go to any of their writing stuff, and everyone turned their nose up at you.

Renee Conoulty:              So it was nice to find one kindred spirit up there who won’t judge genre fiction. And then coming down here to Walker, there’s really not much down here either. It’s close enough to Sydney and Melbourne and Canberra that I could find things if I wanted to. But ’cause it’s a smaller, country town, there’s not a big collection of romance writers here. So I keep in touch with people online more than anything.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. That’s awesome. And you’ve got an event you’re going to in November, which is the West Coast Fiction Festival. Tell us about that.

Renee Conoulty:              Yes. Well, I’m heading over there mainly to see my publisher. My friend, Karen, she’s coming over from the US. She’s booked a table at the front with the other publishers. So she’ll have all the books from Kindred Ink Press available for sale there. So I’m like, “I haven’t met her.” She’s one of my friends online that I’ve never met. So there’s a lot of people like that, but I’m so excited she’s coming over from the US. So we’ll travel over together, and I’ll help man the table with her. So I’ll have my books there if you want things signed, I can sign them there. But I won’t have one of the official signing tables inside.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              But I’ll be there. I can’t wait to go over.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. It’s looking like it’s going to be huge. Of course, November in Perth is beautiful weather. So yeah. I was talking Lisa Islands the other day, and she’s gonna be one of the signing. A lot of the ladies that I’ve talked to on this podcast will be there. So yeah, I’m a bit jealous. I’m like, “I don’t know if I can do that.” I’m saving up to go to RWA next year in America.

Renee Conoulty:              Well I was like, okay. My publisher’s coming over. I’ve got to go to that one. So I couldn’t really afford that one and RWA, and I’ve got another weekend away coming up in Sydney for the Invictus Games because the choir I’m singing in, the military wives choir, they’ve been invited to sing for the opening ceremony.

Sarah Williams:                  Awesome.

Renee Conoulty:              So I’m like, “Ooh.”

Sarah Williams:                  Of course, Harry and Meghan are gonna be there.

Renee Conoulty:              [crosstalk 00:23:47] You won’t hear me, but yeah, it’s very exciting. It’s an opportunity you don’t get to do very often.

Sarah Williams:                  It is for sure. I know that will be exciting.

Renee Conoulty:              [inaudible 00:23:58] but I think that’s why my travel budget’s gone.

Sarah Williams:                  [inaudible 00:24:04] Well you can claim back the West Coast Fiction Festival on your taxes.

Renee Conoulty:              Yeah, that’s tax. I’ll claim that on tax.

Sarah Williams:                  I’m just waiting for my phone call, telling me I get a stall. I haven’t done that yet. So what are you working on at the moment?

Renee Conoulty:              Right now, I’ve been a little bit slack for the last couple of months ’cause my husband’s just been on a seven month deployment, and he came back about two weeks ago. So it’s all been getting ready to see Daddy again and getting the kids all sorted. I’ve been watching way too much Netflix and hanging out with him the last couple of weeks, but he’ll be back to work soon. And I’ll get back into the project I’m probably three-quarters through, which is the second book in the ‘Got That Swing’ series. So after ‘Don’t Mean a Thing’, I’m working on the next one. So the story with the Navy girl.

Sarah Williams:                  Excellent.

Renee Conoulty:              So yeah, about three-quarters through that one. So I just need to sit back down in the seat and get my fingers back on the keyboard and keep things rolling.

Sarah Williams:                  That’s it.

Renee Conoulty:              I find it … I’m not somebody who sits down and binge writes and writes for hours and hours and gets it out. I’ve gotta just plug away at things. I get there, and I get to 300 words. And I’m like, “Oh, my brain is fried. I can’t do anymore.” But if I can keep going … I set myself a goal to write 100 words a day.

Sarah Williams:                  Excellent.

Renee Conoulty:              If I can sit my bum down and write 100 words, that’s usually enough to get the momentum going, and then I can keep going and I can write a bit more.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah.

Renee Conoulty:              But if it’s one of those bad days, if I get to the 100, I’ve done something, and I’ve kept the story fresh in my mind. I can keep it going ’cause I haven’t been doing that for the last month or so. It’s just all dried up and stopped. I need to go back and really read the last few chapters and get back into that daily rhythm.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah, maybe you should try dictation.

Renee Conoulty:              Well, I’ve thought about it, but my brain doesn’t work like that. I know. I feel like I need to think about what I’m saying with my fingers. I don’t know, but I might give it a try sometime.

Sarah Williams:                  Yeah. I’m dictating-

Renee Conoulty:              I can talk.

Sarah Williams:                  I know. That’s what I was gonna say. I’m dictating my novel that I’m working on at the moment as well as the last one. I’m, yeah, I’m finding it really good. I’ll only do first draft, and then I’ll edit like crazy on the computer, but yeah, I definitely find it useful. So there you go. Something to think about. Excellent. So where can we find you and your course and your books and your audio? Where can we find you online?

Renee Conoulty:              Well there’s links to everything on my website, which is the one that I originally started when I was book blogging. So it’s called heysaidrenee at blogspot.com. I’ve just kept the same one. I haven’t gone and got a new one. I just changed the header and changed the tag line and all that sort of stuff and just put up more pages with book stuff on there. But pretty much if you Google Conoulty, C-O-N-O-U-L-T-Y, you’ll find me because I’m the only Conoulty on the internet that’s doing anything interesting.

Renee Conoulty:              So I tend to come up in all … The first two or three pages will be me with a random thing from someone else. But I’m on Facebook a fair bit. I do have a Twitter account. I sort of dropped off using that quite so much. I’m on Instagram. I’m around.

Sarah Williams:                  Excellent.

Renee Conoulty:              I’m around. Hunt me down. Say hi.

Sarah Williams:                  Procrastinating like the rest of us.

Renee Conoulty:              Yeah. Yes.

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